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    FERRELLGAS PARTNERS L P (FGPR)

    FGPR Q3 2024: Warm Weather Cuts Volumes 11%, $71.6M Revenue Hit

    Reported on Jun 6, 2025 (Before Market Open)
    Pre-Earnings Price$10.00Open (Jun 20, 2024)
    Post-Earnings Price$10.00Open (Jun 20, 2024)
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    • Improved Operational Efficiency: The company has implemented strong cost-cutting initiatives—including an over 8% reduction in fleet expenses, strategic investments in telematics technology, and targeted reductions in capital expenditures—all designed to enhance margins despite challenging weather conditions.
    • Robust Blue Rhino Business Growth: The Blue Rhino segment delivered a 19% increase in EBITDA, reduced capital spending by nearly $8 million, and expanded its market presence with the installation of over 500 self-service kiosks, indicating a growing, weather-agnostic revenue stream.
    • Solid Liquidity and Strategic Financial Management: With a cash balance around $75 million and a $350 million revolver ensuring about $250 million of available liquidity, the company’s financial flexibility and ongoing refinancing evaluations provide a sound basis for future growth and risk management.
    • Weather Impact on Traditional Segments: The unseasonably warm weather led to a 15.7% increase in heating degree days and a consequent 11% decrease in gallons sold with $71.6 million lower revenues, which hurt gross profit and could pose challenges if such weather trends continue.
    • Refinancing and Capital Structure Uncertainty: There are ongoing concerns regarding the early refinancing of the '26 senior notes. The discussion highlighted uncertainties in achieving favorable refinancing terms and potential increases in interest costs, which adds to the capital structure risk.
    • Liquidity and Litigation Risks: Although the company maintains liquidity through cash and a revolver, questions regarding liquidity adequacy to cover litigation expenses and potential redemptions of Class B shares indicate that any adverse developments could strain available cash and overall financial flexibility.
    1. Debt Refinancing
      Q: Early refinancing for '26 notes?
      A: Management is evaluating an early refinancing of the '26 senior notes by weighing both quantitative calculations—like call premiums and interest expense impacts—and qualitative factors to derisk the 2026 refinancing event.

    2. Liquidity Management
      Q: How is liquidity maintained?
      A: They report a cash balance of about $75 million combined with a revolver providing roughly $250 million in liquidity after required reserves, which management believes is sufficient.

    3. CapEx Returns
      Q: What about nonmaintenance CapEx returns?
      A: Discretionary growth and M&A CapEx investments are only made when they meet or exceed an internal hurdle rate, though specific figures are not disclosed.

    4. Capital Structure
      Q: Plans to restructure capital structure?
      A: They are continually evaluating restructuring options, including aspects of their capital stack, but have nothing definitive to announce at this time.

    5. OpEx Mitigation
      Q: How are rising operating expenses managed?
      A: Management is addressing increased OpEx through initiatives such as an enterprise-wide ERP system and early deployment of fleet telematics, while considering one-time higher medical expenses.

    6. Margin Outlook
      Q: How do margins look?
      A: Despite a 7% decrease in gross profit, favorable segment mixes and pricing improvements have led to a 4% increase in margin per gallon, with management expecting similar dynamics going forward.

    7. 10-Q Filing
      Q: When was the 10-Q filed?
      A: The 10-Q was filed last evening and will be available this morning, following an automatic SEC extension.

    8. Weather Impact
      Q: How is weather affecting operations?
      A: Unseasonably warm weather hurt the heating segment by reducing typical demand, although it helped boost demand in weather-agnostic areas like tank exchange.

    9. Blue Rhino Performance
      Q: How is Blue Rhino performing?
      A: The Blue Rhino business saw a 19% increase in EBITDA and reduced capital expenses by nearly $8 million, supported by supply chain improvements and the rollout of over 500 self-service kiosks.

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